01 March 2005           

A Prayer
of Jesus

I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise
and understanding and revealed them to babes; yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will

 

 

The Eschatological Discourse

 

WHEN AND WHAT

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____By Edgar Jones____

 

Introduction

 

You will know the significance of our subtitle as you proceed.  There are two questions, a “When?” and a “What?”

 

The Lords Eschatological Discourse in the Synoptic Gospels is one of the most misunderstood of his utterances.  Some know it as “The Olivet Discourse” or “The Little Apocalypse.” This paper will examine this discourse that consists primarily of prophecies of the Lord.  It does not appear in the Fourth Gospel and we confine our attention here to Matthew, Mark and Luke.  It is in the following table, from each of the three and presented in parallel columns.  We retain the sequence of the verses in each gospel (with one exception) and space them as required to match corresponding verses.  You will notice that there are many differences in the three versions, but that the sequence of the verses remains unchanged.  Five segments, to be explained later, are separated by strings of A’s, B’s, C’s, D’s and E’s.

 

Another thing you will see is that Matthew 10:17-22 has been inserted after Matthew 24:9.  The reason for this is obvious.  When preparing the table, I noted a gap in Matthew's column, for Matthew 24 does not contain a parallel to Mark 13:9-13/Luke 21:12-18.  But lo!  Go back to Matthew 10:17-22 and there are the missing verses, in the instructions given to the Twelve when he sent them out to precede him to the villages and cities of Israel.  That these verses are misplaced in that context is clear.  There is no parallel to Matt. 10:17-22 in the same context in either Mark or Luke.  Most tellingly, however, is the fact that the content of these verses does not fit this mission of the Twelve.  We have this from vs. 10:18 that does not fit this assignment for several reasons.

 

[18] and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear testimony before them and the Gentiles.

 

We have no record that the Twelve encountered this experience during this period in the ministry of the Lord; further, being dragged before a plurality of governors and kings and giving testimony before the Gentiles is completely inconsistent with his first instruction to them (vs. 10:5), to “go nowhere among the Gentiles.”  So, we have not only a case of five different segments being separated and mingled incorrectly, but also a portion of one segment being completely misplace in a foreign context by Matthew!

 

The Eschatological Discourse

 

Matthew 24

[1] Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple.

Mark 13

[1] And as he came out of the temple, one of his disciples said to him, "Look, Teacher, what wonderful stones and what wonderful buildings!"
Luke 21
[5] And as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with noble stones and offerings, he said,
[2] But he answered them, You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down." [2] And Jesus said to him,  Do you see these great buildings? There will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down." [6As for these things which you see, the days will come when there shall not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down."
[3] As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, [3] And as he sat on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,
"Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?"

[4] "Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign when these things are all to be accomplished? [7] And they asked him, "Teacher, when will this be, and what will be the sign when this is about to take place?"
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[4] And Jesus answered them, "Take heed that no one leads you astray. [5] And Jesus began to say to them, "Take heed that no one leads you astray. [8] And he said, "Take heed that you are not led astray;
[5] For many will come in my name, saying, `I am the Christ,' and they will lead many astray. [6] Many will come in my name, saying, `I am he!' and they will lead many astray. for many will come in my name, saying, `I am he!' and, `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.
[6] And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet. [7] And when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed; this must take place, but the end is not yet [9] And when you hear of wars and tumults, do not be terrified; for this must first take place, but the end will not be at once."
[7] For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, : [8] For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;  [10] Then he said to them, "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;
and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places there will be earthquakes in various places, there will be famines; [11] there will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.
[8] all this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs.

this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs.



[9] "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation, and put you to death; [12] But before all this they will lay their hands on you and persecute you,  [12] But before all this they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, 
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[17] Beware of men; for they will deliver you up to councils, and flog you in their synagogues,
delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons,  delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons, 
[18] and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, and you will be brought before kings and governors for my name's sake. and you will be brought before kings and governors for my name's sake.
to bear testimony before them and the Gentiles.

to bear testimony before them [13] This will be a time for you to bear testimony.

[19] When they deliver you up, do not be anxious how you are to speak or what you are to say; 
(see Verse 10 below)
[11] And when they bring you to trial and deliver you up, do not be anxious beforehand what you are to say;

[14] Settle it therefore in your minds, not to meditate beforehand how to answer;
for what you are to say will be given to you in that hour; but say whatever is given you in that hour,
[15] for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict.
[20] for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.
[21] Brother will deliver up brother to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death; [12] And brother will deliver up brother to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death; [16] You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers and kinsmen and friends, and some of you they will put to death;
[22a] and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. [13] and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. [17] you will be hated by all for my name's sake.


[18] But not a hair of your head will perish.
But he who endures to the end will be saved. But he who endures to the end will be saved.  [19] By your endurance you will gain your lives.

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(Vs. 22a duplicates the sense of Vs. 9b below)


[9b]and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake.

[10] And then many will fall away, and betray one another, and hate one another.

[11] And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray.

[12] And because wickedness is multiplied, most men's love will grow cold.

[13] But he who endures to the end will be saved.

[14] And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.
[10] And the gospel must first be preached to all nations.






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[15] "So when you see the desolating sacrilege spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), [14] "But when you see the desolating sacrilege set up where it ought not to be (let the reader understand), [20] "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near.
[16] then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains; [21] Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains,
[17] let him who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house; [15] let him who is on the housetop not go down, nor enter his house, to take anything away; and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it;


[22] for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.
[18] and let him who is in the field not turn back to take his mantle. [16] and let him who is in the field not turn back to take his mantle.
[19] And alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days! [17] And alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days! [23] Alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days!
[20] Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a sabbath. [18] Pray that it may not happen in winter.
[21] For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. [19] For in those days there will be such tribulation as has not been from the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will be. For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people;
[22] And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

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[20] And if the Lord had not shortened the days, no human being would be saved; but for the sake of the elect, whom he chose, he shortened the days.

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[24] they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
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[23] Then if any one says to you, `Lo, here is the Christ!' or `There he is!' do not believe it. [21] And then if any one says to you, `Look, here is the Christ!' or `Look, there he is!' do not believe it.
[24] For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. [22] False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.
[25] Lo, I have told you beforehand. [23] But take heed; I have told you all things beforehand.
[26] So, if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.

[27] For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man.

[28] Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

[29] "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light,
[24] "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, [25] "And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars,
and the stars will fall from heaven, [25] and the stars will be falling from heaven,


and upon the earth distress of nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves,



and the powers of the heavens will be shaken;



and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.
[26] men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
[30] then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; [26] And then




they will see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory.
[27] And then

 


they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
[31] and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. [27] And then he will send out the angels, and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.


[28] Now when these things begin to take place, look up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."
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[32] From the fig tree learn its lesson: . [28] "From the fig tree learn its lesson:   [29] And he told them a parable:
Look at the fig tree, and all the trees;
as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. [30] as soon as they come out in leaf, you see for yourselves and know that the summer is already near.
[33] So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the
very gates.
[29] So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates. [31] So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that the kingdom of God is near.
[34] Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place. [30] Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away before all these things take place. [32] Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all has taken place.
[35] Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. [31] Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. [33] Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
[36] "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. [32] "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
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[37] As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man.

[38] For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,

[39] and they did not know until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man.

[40] Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left.

[41] Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left.

[42] Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. [33] Take heed, watch; for you do not know when the time will come. [34] "But take heed to yourselves lest your hearts be weighed down with dissipation and drunkenness and cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly like a snare;
[43] But know this, that if the householder had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have let his house be broken into.

[44] Therefore you also must be ready; for the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect.



[34] It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to be on the watch.

[35] Watch therefore -- for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening, or at midnight, or at cockcrow, or in the morning --

[36] lest he come suddenly and find you asleep.


[35] for it will come upon all who dwell upon the face of the whole earth.

[37] And what I say to you I say to all: Watch." [36] But watch at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that will take place, and to stand before the Son of man.
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This constitutes a single discourse of the Lord, and it is evident that the recollections of the sources of each of these gospels differed significantly, yet without altering the essence.  The endings of the discourse in each case are very different, containing little shared material.  This suggests one reason we have three gospels -- to assure us that we have the complete discourse.  However, the sequence of the verses is the same.  This means that it has not been necessary, in the above table, to alter the sequence of the verses (with the exception of Mark 13:10), in either of the gospels to obtain correspondence between them. 

 

 

Some Anomalies

 

When we examine each of the accounts closely, we also find ourselves confronted with what appear to be a prophecy contradicted by history.  When we see that all three prophesy the coming of the Son of Man, understood to be the Second Coming, or Parousia, that surely has not taken place as of this date, and also see this statement in the discourse (Matt. vs. 34, Mk. vs. 30, Lk. vs. 32):

 

Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place.

 

We have a serious and obvious problem.  Did the Lord prophesy that his Second Coming would take place within his generation? 

 

Contradictory instructions appear when we examine what his disciples are to do when terrible things are about to take place.  He instructs us to do this (Matt. vs. 16f, Mk. vs. 14f, Lk. vs. 21f)

 

[16] then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains;
[17] let him who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house;
[18] and let him who is in the field not turn back to take his mantle.

 

Get out of there!  Flee to the mountains!

 

But then, Matthew has him also say this:

 

[26] So, if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out;

 

Do not get out of there!  Do not flee to anywhere!

 

This has caused many to lose confidence in Jesus as a prophet.  On the one hand, he seems to be telling us that his return in judgment and to receive his own must occur within that generation; on the other hand, we see evidence that the conditions for his return have not even yet been met.  He says (Matt. vs. 14, Mk. vs. 10):

 

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

 

Was that condition met in that generation?  Surely not.  His true gospel has not been preached throughout the whole world even today. 

 

Can all of his words here be reconciled?  Or must we concede that Jesus was mistaken?   

 

 

The Two Questions

 

No, we concede nothing.  Jesus was not mistaken, and the resolution of these apparent contradictions is very, very simple provided only that one is able to acknowledge that we have here, in this discourse, the mingled answers to two separate questions.  This is the case in all three gospels so we need examine the introduction to this discourse in only one of them.  Here it is from Matthew:

 

[2] But he answered them, "You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down."
[3] As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying,

"Tell us, when will this be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?"

 

The two questions are:

 

  1. When will this be?  And,

 

  1. What will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?

 

Jesus had just foretold the destruction of the great temple structures and the disciples want to know when it will occur.  Now, if we can accept that, in the minds of his disciples, those structures were built to stand to the end of the world, then we can see why they asked their questions as they did.  They thought the “When?” and the “What?” begged a single answer.  They are simply asking him to expand on the answer to “When?” Jesus knew better and so he proceeded to answer two questions, as listed.  He tells them, and us, when the destruction of the temple structures will take place.  Then he also speaks of the signs of his coming and the close of the age.

 

Two questions, two different events and two different answers!  Not understanding these things, his disciples though they had asked but one comprehensive question, begging a single answer.

 

When we look at the discourse in this light, is it possible to separate the two different answers so as to remove the contradictions?  Yes, it is.  The points of division between them may not be determined exactly but we can see, when we examine the contexts in all three gospels, that the answers can be separated to the exactness of a single verse or two, and that there is little need to alter the sequence of verses within them.

 

Distinguishing the Answers

 

The discourse can be divided into five consecutive segments in all three gospels.  These must then be separated and reassembled, again without altering the sequence of verses within the segments.  This will produce the different answers to the two questions.  You should understand if we diagram the process and show the sorting .  We label the five consecutive segments A, B, C, D, and E as shown here.


  ___A___   +  ___B___   +  ___C___   +  ___D___  +  ___E___

 

Then we separate and reassemble them in two separate sequences.  This will separate the two answers to the questions.

 

1. When will this be?              ___B___  +  ___D___   

 

2. What will be the sign . . .? ___A___  +  ___C___  +  ___E___

 

If we separate the segments correctly, we will have the answers to “When?” and to “What?” without contradictions.  By separating segments B and D from the whole and reassembling them as shown, we will have the Lord’s answer to Question No. 1, the “When?” question.

 

Then, by taking the remaining segments, A, C and E, and assembling them without changing their sequence, we will have the Lord’s answer to Question No. 2, the “What?” question, “What will be the sign of your coming and the close of the age?”

 

You have found the partitions placed in the above table, where you can confirm that the sequence is the same.  Now we will show the segments assembled from each gospel independently, without the parallel table, so that you will not be distracted by gospel to gospel comparisons.  We also include here the verses that are misplaced in Matthew Chapter 10.

 

So, what is the answer to question No. 1? 

 

From Matthew Chapter 24

 

Question No. 1 -- When Will the Temple be Destroyed?

 

1. When will the Temple be destroyed so that its stones will be thrown down?

 

(Segment B)

[15] So when you see the desolating sacrilege spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
[16] then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains;
[17] let him who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house;
[18] and let him who is in the field not turn back to take his mantle.
[19] And alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days!
[20] Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a sabbath.
[21] For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
[22] And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

(Segment D)

[32] From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near.
[33] So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.
[34] Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place.
[35] Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

 [36] "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,
 nor the Son, but the Father only.


The temple complex was destroyed and its stones thrown down in 70 AD, before that generation passed away.  Many of those disciples who heard this prophecy from his lips were yet alive.  They remembered and they fled
Jerusalem just prior to its destruction by the Romans under Titus, who were putting down Jewish rebellion. 

 

Some will insist that vs. 36 belongs to Question No. 2.  I have also placed it there in times past.  But then, what is Question No. 1?  It is the “When?” is it not?  If any verse in this utterance pertains to the “When?” of the destruction of the Temple complex and the city of Jerusalem, this one surely does.  It answers a “When” directly, by asserting that no one knows the day and hour of that tragic event.  Jesus did know the generation, and he was absolutely correct.  Remember that the other question is not a “When” question, but a “What.”

 

When we read in Josephus, an eye witness to this terrible disaster (The Jewish War, Book vi), most will agree that Jesus did not exaggerate the suffering that the Jews endured in their futile defense of Jerusalem.  You will find selected paragraphs from Josephus below.



Question No. 2 --  Signs of the Parousia

 

2. What will be the sign of your coming and the close of the age?


Now to assemble segments “A,” “C,” and “E.”

 

(Segment A)

[4] And Jesus answered them, Take heed that no one leads you astray.
[5] For many will come in my name, saying, `I am the Christ,' and they will lead many astray.
[6] And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not alarmed; for this must take place, but the end is not yet.
[7] For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places:
[8] all this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs.
[9] "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation, and put you to death;

Insertion from Matthew Chapter 10

[17] Beware of men; for they will deliver you up to councils, and flog you in their synagogues,
[18] and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake,

to bear testimony before them and the Gentiles.

[19] When they deliver you up, do not be anxious how you are to speak or what you are to say; for what you are to say will be given to you in that hour;
[20] for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
[21] Brother will deliver up brother to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death;
[22] and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.

End of insertion from Matthew 10

and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake.
[10] And then many will fall away, and betray one another, and hate one another.
[11] And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray.
[12] And because wickedness is multiplied, most men's love will grow cold.
[13] But he who endures to the end will be saved.
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

(Segment C)

[23] Then if any one says to you, `Lo, here is the Christ!' or `There he is!' do not believe it.
[24] For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
[25] Lo, I have told you beforehand.
[26] So, if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
[27] For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
[28] Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
[29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken;
[30] then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory;
[31] and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

(Segment E)

[37] As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
[38] For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,
[39] and they did not know until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
[40] Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left.
[41] Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left.
[42] Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.
[43] But know this, that if the householder had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have let his house be broken into.
[44] Therefore you also must be ready; for the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

 

There will be no signs!  Everything will be normal – all involved in their usual activities with no intimation whatever that the end is at hand.  There is but one way to be prepared – be ready at all times!  We have the answer to Question No. 2, stated and explained, with cautions against relying on signs.  Yes, he does descri 'signs' but they are not signs of his coming, except those that appear at the very hour of his return.  They are instead, signs of his 'not coming.'  The Lord indicates these so that we be not deceived by those who will see certain signs and teach that they are signs of his coming.

 

 

From Mark, Chapter 13

 

We now do the same thing for this discourse in the Gospel of Mark. 

 

Question No. 1

 

1. When will the Temple be destroyed so that its stones will be thrown down?

 

(Segment B)

[14] But when you see the desolating sacrilege set up where it ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains;
[15] let him who is on the housetop not go down, nor enter his house, to take anything away;
[16] and let him who is in the field not turn back to take his mantle.
[17] And alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days!
[18] Pray that it may not happen in winter.
[19] For in those days there will be such tribulation as has not been from the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will be.
[20] And if the Lord had not shortened the days, no human being would be saved; but for the sake of the elect, whom he chose, he shortened the days.

(Segment D)

[28] "From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near.
[29] So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates.
[30] Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away before all these things take place.
[31] Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

[32] "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

 

Question No. 2

 

2. What will be the sign of your coming and the close of the age?

 

(Segment A)

[5] And Jesus began to say to them, Take heed that no one leads you astray.
[6] Many will come in my name, saying, `I am he!' and they will lead many astray.
[7] And when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed; this must take place, but the end is not yet.
[8] For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there will be earthquakes in various places, there will be famines; this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs.
[9] But take heed to yourselves; for they will deliver you up to councils; and you will be beaten in synagogues; and you will stand before governors and kings for my sake, to bear testimony before them.
[10] And the gospel must first be preached to all nations.
[11] And when they bring you to trial and deliver you up, do not be anxious beforehand what you are to say; but say whatever is given you in that hour, for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.
[12] And brother will deliver up brother to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death;
[13] and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.

(Segment C)

[21] And then if any one says to you, `Look, here is the Christ!' or `Look, there he is!' do not believe it.
[22] False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.
[23] But take heed; I have told you all things beforehand.
[24] "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light,
[25] and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.
[26] And then they will see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory.
[27] And then he will send out the angels, and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.

(Segment E)

[33] Take heed, watch; for you do not know when the time will come.
[34] It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to be on the watch.
[35] Watch therefore -- for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening, or at
midnight, or at cockcrow, or in the morning
[36] lest he come suddenly and find you asleep.
[37] And what I say to you I say to all: Watch."

 

Mark’s version of the answer to the What question is essentially the same as that of Matthew.  There will be no signs preceding the coming of the Son of man.  Just be ready – and “Watch.”

 

 

From Luke, Chapter 21

 

We have assembled the segments from Matthew and Mark.  Does Luke give the same result when similarly assembled?

 

Question No. 1

 

1. When will the Temple be destroyed so that its stones will be thrown down?

 

(Segment B)

[20] "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near.

[21] Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it;
[22] for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

[23] Alas for those who are with child and for those who give suck in those days!

For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people;
[24] they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

(Segment D)

(31) . . . "Look at the fig tree, and all the trees;
[30] as soon as they come out in leaf, you see for yourselves and know that the summer is already near.
[31] So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that the
kingdom of God is near.
[32] Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all has taken place.
[33] Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

 

Verse 31 has this statement:

 

[31] So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that the kingdom of God is near.

 

It is very unlikely that Jesus said this at this time because the coming of the kingdom was at his death by crucifixion and the expression, “the kingdom of God is near” is a phrase used to emphasize the nearness of the coming.  The parallels in Matthew and Mark have a different and very appropriate statement,

 

. . .you know that he is near, at the very gates.

 

It was the Roman commander, Titus, who was near.  Therefore, it was the kingdom of Caesar that was near, not the kingdom of God.  One can only speculate as to why Luke reads differently here.  Did Luke record it, making an error in his accounting of the Word?  Did a later scribe insert it, thinking this signaled the coming of the kingdom of God? 

 

Question No. 2

 

Precisely as in Matthew and Mark, assembling the A, C, and E segments produces the answer to question No. 2:

 

2. What will be the sign of your coming and the close of the age?

 

(Segment A)

[8] And he said, "Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name, saying, `I am he!' and, `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.
[9] And when you hear of wars and tumults, do not be terrified; for this must first take place, but the end will not be at once."
[10] Then he said to them, "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;
[11] there will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.
[12] But before all this they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors for my name's sake.
[13] This will be a time for you to bear testimony.
[14] Settle it therefore in your minds, not to meditate beforehand how to answer;
[15] for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict.
[16] You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers and kinsmen and friends, and some of you they will put to death;
[17] you will be hated by all for my name's sake.
[18] But not a hair of your head will perish.
[19] By your endurance you will gain your lives
.
(Segment C)

[25] "And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and upon the earth distress of nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves,
[26] men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
[27] And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
[28] Now when these things begin to take place, look up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

(Segment E)

[34] But take heed to yourselves lest your hearts be weighed down with dissipation and drunkenness and cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly like a snare;
[35] for it will come upon all who dwell upon the face of the whole earth.
[36]
But watch at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that will take place, and to stand before the Son of man."

 

 

 

Confirmation

 

We can now look to the two answers to the two questions as sorted and assembled above and observe that most of the anomalies within the Eschatological Discourse melt away.  This is a confirmation that the sorting is appropriate and necessary to make sense of the entire discourse.  We comment next on some details of each question.

 

Question No. 1

 

Segment B, urging flight from the city and prophesying that Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles until their time is fulfilled sets this segment in its proper place.  There is no need to flee when the Son of man returns.  Where to flee from an event that is to come upon the face of the whole earth?

 

There is a need to flee prior to the destruction of the city.  The disciples must save their lives so as to remain and continue planting the seed of the Word in the world after their Lord has departed.

 

The case is different when the Lord returns at the close of the age.  If the disciples attempt to flee then, so as to save their lives in the world, they will be in violation of the Great Principle according to which whoever seeks to save his life will lose it.

 

Mark 13:19 tends to create an objection in our minds to the thought that this applies to the destruction of the Temple and city. 

 

For in those days there will be such tribulation as has not been from the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will be.

 

Isn't that a little strong?  Did that tribulation exceed that of the Nazi Holocaust?  Did it exceed that of the 2005 Tsunami?  Perhaps, but when we learn just how terrible was that tribulation, we can consider this comment to be appropriate.  We have the eyewitness account written by the Jewish historian, Josephus, which supports this prophecy of our Lord.  You may learn more of the severity of the condition of the Jews during the siege of Jerusalem by following the links at the beginning of each paragraph below where we have excerpted brief statements from his history of the Jewish War.  This is the unsurpassed suffering of which Jesus spoke, that followed the appearance of the Roman commander Titus, with his army, at the gates of Jerusalem as Jesus foretold when he said to his disciples (Matt. 24:33, Mark 13:29).

 

[29] So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates.

 

Excerpts from Josephus

 

1. Concerning the crucifixion of captive Jews by the Romans

 

SO now Titus's banks were advanced a great way, notwithstanding his soldiers had been very much distressed from the wall. He then sent a party of horsemen, and ordered they should lay ambushes for those that went out into the valleys to gather food. Some of these were indeed fighting men, who were not contented with what they got by rapine; but the greater part of them were poor people, who were deterred from deserting by the concern they were under for their own relations; for they could not hope to escape away, together with their wives and children, without the knowledge of the seditious; nor could they think of leaving these relations to be slain by the robbers on their account; nay, the severity of the famine made them bold in thus going out; so nothing remained but that, when they were concealed from the robbers, they should be taken by the enemy; and when they were going to be taken, they were forced to defend themselves for fear of being punished; as after they had fought, they thought it too late to make any supplications for mercy; so they were first whipped, and then tormented with all sorts of tortures, before they died, and were then crucified before the wall of the city. This miserable procedure made Titus greatly to pity them, while they caught every day five hundred Jews; nay, some days they caught more: yet it did not appear to be safe for him to let those that were taken by force go their way, and to set a guard over so many he saw would be to make such as great deal them useless to him. The main reason why he did not forbid that cruelty was this, that he hoped the Jews might perhaps yield at that sight, out of fear lest they might themselves afterwards be liable to the same cruel treatment. So the soldiers, out of the wrath and hatred they bore the Jews, nailed those they caught, one after one way, and another after another, to the crosses, by way of jest, when their multitude was so great, that room was wanting for the crosses, and crosses wanting for the bodies.

 

2. The growing miseries of Jerusalem during the long siege

 

THUS did the miseries of Jerusalem grow worse and worse every day, and the seditious were still more irritated by the calamities they were under, even while the famine preyed upon themselves, after it had preyed upon the people. And indeed the multitude of carcasses that lay in heaps one upon another was a horrible sight, and produced a pestilential stench, which was a hinderance to those that would make sallies out of the city, and fight the enemy: but as those were to go in battle-array, who had been already used to ten thousand murders, and must tread upon those dead bodies as they marched along, so were not they terrified, nor did they pity men as they marched over them; nor did they deem this affront offered to the deceased to be any ill omen to themselves; but as they had their right hands already polluted with the murders of their own countrymen, and in that condition ran out to fight with foreigners, they seem to me to have cast a reproach upon God himself, as if he were too slow in punishing them; for the war was not now gone on with as if they had any hope of victory; for they gloried after a brutish manner in that despair of deliverance they were already in.

 

3.   Some details of the famine in the city

Now of those that perished by famine in the city, the number was prodigious, and the miseries they underwent were unspeakable; for if so much as the shadow of any kind of food did any where appear, a war was commenced presently, and the dearest friends fell a fighting one with another about it, snatching from each other the most miserable supports of life. Nor would men believe that those who were dying had no food, but the robbers would search them when they were expiring, lest any one should have concealed food in their bosoms, and counterfeited dying; nay, these robbers gaped for want, and ran about stumbling and staggering along like mad dogs, and reeling against the doors of the houses like drunken men; they would also, in the great distress they were in, rush into the very same houses two or three times in one and the same day. Moreover, their hunger was so intolerable, that it obliged them to chew every thing, while they gathered such things as the most sordid animals would not touch, and endured to eat them; nor did they at length abstain from girdles and shoes; and the very leather which belonged to their shields they pulled off and gnawed: the very wisps of old hay became food to some; and some gathered up fibres, and sold a very small weight of them for four Attic [drachmae]. But why do I describe the shameless impudence that the famine brought on men in their eating inanimate things, while I am going to relate a matter of fact, the like to which no history relates, (15) either among the Greeks or Barbarians? It is horrible to speak of it, and incredible when heard. I had indeed willingly omitted this calamity of ours, that I might not seem to deliver what is so portentous to posterity, but that I have innumerable witnesses to it in my own age; and besides, my country would have had little reason to thank me for suppressing the miseries that she underwent at this time.

4. Mary's story – just one of more than a million of those that perished

There was a certain woman that dwelt beyond Jordan, her name was Mary; her father was Eleazar, of the village Bethezob, which signifies the house of Hyssop. She was eminent for her family and her wealth, and had fled away to Jerusalem with the rest of the multitude, and was with them besieged therein at this time. The other effects of this woman had been already seized upon, such I mean as she had brought with her out of Perea, and removed to the city. What she had treasured up besides, as also what food she had contrived to save, had been also carried off by the rapacious guards, who came every day running into her house for that purpose. This put the poor woman into a very great passion, and by the frequent reproaches and imprecations she cast at these rapacious villains, she had provoked them to anger against her; but none of them, either out of the indignation she had raised against herself, or out of commiseration of her case, would take away her life; and if she found any food, she perceived her labors were for others, and not for herself; and it was now become impossible for her any way to find any more food, while the famine pierced through her very bowels and marrow, when also her passion was fired to a degree beyond the famine itself; nor did she consult with any thing but with her passion and the necessity she was in. She then attempted a most unnatural thing; and snatching up her son, who was a child sucking at her breast, she said, "O thou miserable infant! for whom shall I preserve thee in this war, this famine, and this sedition? As to the war with the Romans, if they preserve our lives, we must be slaves. This famine also will destroy us, even before that slavery comes upon us. Yet are these seditious rogues more terrible than both the other. Come on; be thou my food, and be thou a fury to these seditious varlets, and a by-word to the world, which is all that is now wanting to complete the calamities of us Jews." As soon as she had said this, she slew her son, and then roasted him, and eat the one half of him, and kept the other half by her concealed. Upon this the seditious came in presently, and smelling the horrid scent of this food, they threatened her that they would cut her throat immediately if she did not show them what food she had gotten ready. She replied that she had saved a very fine portion of it for them, and withal uncovered what was left of her son. Hereupon they were seized with a horror and amazement of mind, and stood astonished at the sight, when she said to them, "This is mine own son, and what hath been done was mine own doing! Come, eat of this food; for I have eaten of it myself! Do not you pretend to be either more tender than a woman, or more compassionate than a mother; but if you be so scrupulous, and do abominate this my sacrifice, as I have eaten the one half, let the rest be reserved for me also." After which those men went out trembling, being never so much aftrighted at any thing as they were at this, and with some difficulty they left the rest of that meat to the mother. Upon which the whole city was full of this horrid action immediately; and while every body laid this miserable case before their own eyes, they trembled, as if this unheard of action had been done by themselves. So those that were thus distressed by the famine were very desirous to die, and those already dead were esteemed happy, because they had not lived long enough either to hear or to see such miseries.

5.  The surpassing magnitude of the misery

 

It is therefore impossible to go distinctly over every instance of these men's iniquity. I shall therefore speak my mind here at once briefly: - That neither did any other city ever suffer such miseries, nor did any age ever breed a generation more fruitful in wickedness than this was, from the beginning of the world.

 

6.  The great numbers of those that perished

 

Now the number (32) of those that were carried captive during this whole war was collected to be ninety-seven thousand; as was the number of those that perished during the whole siege eleven hundred thousand, the greater part of whom were indeed of the same nation [with the citizens of Jerusalem], but not belonging to the city itself; for they were come up from all the country to the feast of unleavened bread, and were on a sudden shut up by an army, which, at the very first, occasioned so great a straitness among them, that there came a pestilential destruction upon them, and soon afterward such a famine, as destroyed them more suddenly.

 

Now this vast multitude is indeed collected out of remote places, but the entire nation was now shut up by fate as in prison, and the Roman army encompassed the city when it was crowded with inhabitants. Accordingly, the multitude of those that therein perished exceeded all the destructions that either men or God ever brought upon the world; for, to speak only of what was publicly known, the Romans slew some of them, some they carried captives, and others they made a search for under ground, and when they found where they were, they broke up the ground and slew all they met with.

 

I will not expose you to more of the terrible nature of the disaster that came upon the Jews at the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans.  However, this is only a small sampling of the terrors of the siege and the famine that resulted.  If you have an appetite for more, just follow the links to the works of Josephus who, as I have stated, was an eyewitness to the tragedy.  This is enough, I think, to confirm for us that our Lord was not exaggerating when he described the terrors in Mark 13:19.

 

For in those days there will be such tribulation as has not been from the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will be.

 

Question No. 2

 

What are the signs of “your coming and the close of the age.”

 

In Segment A, we read words directed personally to the disciples who had asked the questions.  This tends to mislead us because it seems to place this segment during their lifetimes and that generation.  When the Lord states (Luke 21:18),

 

Not a hair of your head will perish,

 

we may misunderstand the entire segment to refer to their generation.  But there is good reason to doubt that this verse belongs in this position because it is inconsistent with vs. 16 preceding:

 

You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers and kinsmen and friends, and some of you they will put to death;

 

This is hardly consistent with the promise that no hair will perish.  But apart from this, when we recall that the segment describes persecutions that will be common throughout history, and that will begin in their generation, we see that this statement belongs to the answer to Question No. 2.  It also specifies wars, famines, earthquakes and the rise of many false prophets that suggest we are dealing with the full span of history from that day forward.  The final confirmation of the placing of this segment comes with the statement of Matthew 24:14:

 

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.

 

This calls for activity that extends far beyond the day when the Romans destroyed the Temple and city of Jerusalem.

 

Segment C likewise can be shown to belong to the longer period extending to the end of the world.  When we read this from Luke 21:26,

 

men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world;

 

We know that the focus is something more than the destruction of a single nation or city.  This is coming on the world. 


Segment E, with its clear focus on the coming of the Son of man, repeats this scope of the prophecy in similar words (Luke
21:35).

. . it will come upon all who dwell upon the face of the whole earth.


The destruction of their temple, city and nation in 70 AD was the ultimate disaster for the Jews, but it was not one that extended to all who dwell on the earth.  This segment, without a doubt, answers Question No. 2.

 

It has, for me, been an interesting thing to review the two answers to the two questions, in isolation the one from the other, and check each verse and assertion for accuracy.  I urge you to do the same; it will confirm and support your confidence in the Lord’s prophecies.

 

 

How did the answers become mingled?

 

We do not know, but the evidence is too strong to deny the obvious.  At some time very early, prior to the writing of our earliest manuscript witnesses, the answers to the two questions were mingled and we do no service to the Word or to the Lord by non acceptance of a fact.  Persisting in thinking otherwise will only veil the Truth from our minds and hearts.

 

That Matthew, Mark and Luke all make the error suggests very strongly that they used a single source when composing their gospels, or that one of them (Mark?) used a source containing the error and the others used Mark as a source. 

 

My speculation is that the early disciples all misunderstood Jesus’ answer to this question to be one answer to one question, and so reported it as such when the first written records were created.  It seems certain that they all misunderstood on the day that Jesus answered them.  In that case, there was never a manuscript devoid of the error.

 

The question immediately arises concerning the ability of the Holy Spirit to maintain the integrity of the Word through the centuries.  There are two points of application for the teaching task of the Holy Spirit – the writing and the reading of the Word.  If he did not correct the error in the writing, it remains for Him to correct it in the reading, which is the case with me, and I have earnestly sought to hear his
teaching in my reading, and in the present writing.



Other Records

 

One finds yet other utterances of the Lord recorded in the gospels that are relevant to the one discussed above.  It is my intention to present a second paper in which we will investigate them and their relationship to the Eschatological Discourse as presented herein.  Look for it!



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